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whata you guys think of this intel system?
« on: July 20, 2004, 11:41:00 AM »

hey guys

well after having so much fun ocing this 3.0c im wanting to build another intel rig. i know the the amd fx chip is the way to go right now but man i dont have 600 bucks for a cpu. i mean for the price of a fx-53 cpu i can get a new intel cpu motherboard and ddr2 memory! here have a peek at the parts im considering.

first up is the mb. abit AG8 i915P

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=&depa=0

heres the other mb its a AA8 925X . i still dont know the differance in the two? so for now i got both as my choice!

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=&depa=0

now for the cpu i would use either the 2.8 or the 3.0c im not sure yet? im thinking the 3.0 my self but we will see.

heres the 2.8
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=&depa=0

i wont show you the 3.0c cause its the same box as the 2.8 not like theres anything diff? anyways i wont be able to start on this build until after i pay a few debts. im thinking that maybe the prices will be lower and some of the bugs may have been fixed by the time i actualy buy this system. anyways thats what i want to do. anyone have anything to say about it? always up for input....

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2004, 11:49:45 AM »

nice very nice, what made you pick the Abits? and out of those two id be going with the AA8-DuraMAX, the 3.0 i think would be a good move as we have all seen that in the past they have done us all well.


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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2004, 12:19:28 PM »

well you got your asus and you got your abit both mb's seems to do real well? ive always had good luck with abit so i may as well keep on using them until they give me a reason not to...

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2004, 12:19:36 PM »

Quote from: perc on July 20, 2004, 11:41:00 AM

heres the other mb its a AA8 925X . i still dont know the differance in the two? so for now i got both as my choice!

By the looks of the description, it looks like the 925x chipset on the AA8 is the higher end chipset like the 875. But apart from that obvious difference I cant seem to see the difference either.

As for the cpu, I would go for the 3.0 as we know they or mad oc'ers although from what I have seen the 2.8 also ocs well, so either choice is a winner. Whichever you decide that on, that rig is going to be quick once you've finished with it.


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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2004, 12:28:19 PM »

Quote from: perc on July 20, 2004, 12:19:28 PM

well you got your asus and you got your abit both mb's seems to do real well? ive always had good luck with abit so i may as well keep on using them until they give me a reason not to...

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ok cool i was just wondering if there was any particular reason you chose the Abit but you are like me ill stick with asus until they start making S**t. Whay PSU are you going to use in this beast?


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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2004, 11:27:41 PM »

naw im not going down that road just yet im waiting. what i see right now doesnt impress me. when they mature ill get anotherone but until then im going to just have fun with these intel rigs. they oc like a mofo and at 4gigs plus you can hold pace with them anyways so why spend three times as much on a cpu when i dont have too...

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2004, 04:48:32 PM »

I'm starting to look at upgrading my system as well and i read this article over at [H]ard|OCP. If you want to oc these new boards you need to have a power supply with a 24pin power connection because of the drain from the pci express port. This mostly has to do with the Nvidia 6800 series but still. I'm having a hard time justifing the new prices for this stuff when it doesnt perfrom any better than the stuff that is already out. PCIe graphics cards dont really show any performance gains as of yet although i know in the long run it will be better. DDR2 memeory is also pretty expensive and unless you get it to run at 667 it performes worse than PC4000.

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2004, 09:47:19 PM »

well from what ime reading the 915 board suports the ddr and ddr2 and im not sure but i think it also has the agp port? i did notice the pci xpress and that would deff be a factor. im not going to buy a pci-x card anytime soon so if the 915 also requires the pci-x then i wont be building this system any time soon. now as far as the ddr2 memory its not that expensive infact i found some for the same price as normal ddr. also if i were to build this rig i would be ocing the memory at 330 which is 660 and that would run just as good if not beter then pc4000 so im not too much worried about the high latencys of the newer ddr2....

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2004, 04:48:17 AM »

I read the review on [H] and I saw that these new sockets actually O/C pretty good and are able to get some decent memory bandwidth. Still, I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole. There's nothing really groundbreaking that seperates them fromt he previous P4's because DDR2 isn't all that great yet. I also think its pretty stupid to put the pins on the acutal motherboards...<sarcasm>motherboard companies are going to love that</sarcasm>.

I'm waiting till the price is right on an A64 setup.


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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2004, 12:14:45 PM »

i dont think the prices are ever going to be "cheap" for the newer amd chips infact if anything? i say they get worse! now you may be able to get a fx-51 for a decent price as the fx-53 becomes more main stream but knowing amd they will take the older ones off the product line before they lower the price into our reach. i wouldnt buy the fx series until i could actualy buy one for around 270 or so and i know that aint never happening!!..

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2004, 03:49:59 PM »

Yeah i would really love to have one of the new 939 socket cpus but even the 3500 cost about $500. For around $215 i can get a 3Ghz or even a 3.2Ghz for around $275 and oc them past 3.5Ghz. Twice the price for a cpu that doesnt perform that much better isnt worth it at all.

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2004, 09:45:27 PM »

Quote from: BlackHawk2383 on July 22, 2004, 03:49:59 PM

atleast 3500mhz probly more? my 3.0c will oc 3750mhz without even touching the v-core. id say on the avg youd get atleast 3600mhz and probly a hell of alot more. once over 4gigs your going to be close in peformance anyways....

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2004, 10:47:02 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 23, 2004, 09:28:57 AM

4 Gigs is impossible with air, only mad cooling.

Just don't compare the 2 CPU's, the Athlon 64's are so much superior.

The 3500+ has dropped a fair bit in price already over here.

Id say a 3000+ or 3200+ with a Nforce 3 250 wouldn't be much more than expensive than a 3ghz P4 o/ced to 3.6ghz, and it would be a lot faster.

dude first off i get 4gigs on air with my chip mind tellin me its inpossible? second off you think we are all stupid? i know what the fx-53 is and how it performs so quit acting like i dont. thrid off the 3200 is not faster then my intel 3.0c oced to 4 gigs i had one and i have the bench marks it flat out looses in all tests nothing the 3200 did was faster then this 3.0c. the fx series yes i agree there is no comparing the two chips BUT the 3000 and the 3200 64 chip LOL yeah right! why do you think i sold my 3200 system? cause my intel wiped its ass all over the place!

3900mhz on air. ill look for the 4gig screen shot i have of it on air...

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ok 3983mhz not quite 4gigs but dammit man close enough....

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2004, 12:54:56 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 23, 2004, 09:28:57 AM

Obviously you never had a p4 rig , and know little about their ocing capabilities. Perc is the OCer here , dont question his knowledge.


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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2004, 01:45:04 AM »

I've seen a couple of people get to 4ghz+ on air.... it's not common, but its possible. I'm sorry but a P4 O/C'd to 3.6ghz+ is going to be faster than a A64 3000+ or 3200+ in MOST cases.


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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2004, 03:22:37 AM »

Quote from: LaCuNa on July 24, 2004, 12:54:56 AM

Quote from: Smokey on July 23, 2004, 09:28:57 AM

Obviously you never had a p4 rig , and know little about their ocing capabilities. Perc is the OCer here , dont question his knowledge.

lol thx man i thx you for your kindness but im not claiming to be right all the time. all im sayin here is that the amd in my eyes is too expensive. im not tryin to compare the two im simply just sayin for the 800 bucks it costs for the amd cpu i can build a hole new intel platform that i promise you will perform 90% of what the amd will for alot less.

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2004, 08:57:47 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 24, 2004, 07:48:27 AM

Quote from: sKiDmArK on July 24, 2004, 01:45:04 AM

I've seen a couple of people get to 4ghz+ on air.... it's not common, but its possible. I'm sorry but a P4 O/C'd to 3.6ghz+ is going to be faster than a A64 3000+ or 3200+ in MOST cases.

I know that geesh, i obviously didn't explain myself well enough.

Overclocks like that are not the norm, and if you can o/c that far on a P4, a 3200 at say 2.6ghz is gonna f**ck a P4 up the ass.

no not at 2600 either man it would probly take a 3200 at 3gigs to f**ck a p4 in its ass. at 2400mhz my 3200 scored a whooping 10k in cpu test where as my p4 at 4gigs was 13k. about the ONLY thing the 3200 at 2400mhz would do is match my p4 in 3dmark and games. i think the newer 3500plus 64 chips may stand a chance but not the 3000 and 3200 like your claiming. funny thing is man your argueing with an amd freak not an intel fanboy and im tryin to tell you as unbiased as i can that for the money vrs performance amd is loosing this battle. you of all people should know i have nothing against amd and that its my platform of choice but its a sad day in my ocing life when i have to run an intel cause its cheaper and just as fast and faster in some cases. now before you go flaming me back please note i am talking about the 3000/3200 chips your claiming to be so much faster then a 3.0 at 4gigs plus.

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2004, 10:27:04 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 24, 2004, 09:26:47 AM

Synthetic benchmarks, then yes, the P4 wins, but 99% of people buy these CPU's for gaming and the AMD wins.

i dont care what you do with the chip. gamming ocing benchmarking what ever the 2800/3000/3200 64 chips are slower then the 3.0 oced to 4gigs plain and simple. rember man the 2800/3200 64 chips dont perform much beter then the 2800/3200 bartons. the only real diff in the two chips is ofcourse the 64 bit instructions and the memory controler being on the chip creating less latencey with is defeated by the single chanel controler. no doubt those chips perform real well (barton or 64 series) i mean a 2200mhz chip vrs a 3000mhz chip amd is deff doing somthing right! now the real power is in the newer fx series chips theres no arguing that fact but who the hell has 800 bucks? i dont! wich brings me back to the org topic of my thread.. performance vrs the dollar the intel platform im looking to build will win this match gamming ocing you name it...

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Re: whata you guys think of this intel system?
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2004, 11:03:38 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 24, 2004, 07:55:24 PM

Your arguments for are so one sided.

You basically said:

"A P4 at 4Gigs beats a stock 3200+"

Well of course it f**cking does. If you read what i say, i said 3200+ at 2.6/2.7, i kno what id rather have.

Also the 939 socket 3800/ is hardly any different to the FX.

look you thick headed fcuker a 2800/3200 64 chip at 2400mhz thru 2800mhz is not going to beat a 3.0 at 4 gigs! i never said stock you did. all along i have been sayin its going to take atleast 3gigs out of those chips to beat or keep pace with the 3.0 at 4gigs plain and simple! tell you what go oc your 64 3200 and come back and ill whipe your ass with my 3.0c at 4gigs that i promise you. oh yeah... you dont own one man you dont even own a god dammed 64 3200. look you have totaly come in here and ruined my hole thread with your stupid bull S**t. take this warning and go fcuk with someone else otherwise man your days are numbered here this i promise you...

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